Received: by central.hub.nih.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:46:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cruz, Miguel (OD/ORS)" To: "'A.M. Rutkowski'" , RHS Linux User , us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov Subject: RE: Automated .US Registration Site Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:46:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Not too slick for people who live in DC, unless they run a K-12 school. miguel -----Original Message----- From: A.M. Rutkowski [mailto:amr@netmagic.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 6:27 PM To: RHS Linux User; us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov Subject: Re: Automated .US Registration Site At 04:31 PM 5/24/99 , John wrote: We have an automated registration site for the .US domains. Its a free service for anyone to use. This is a slick site. What's the business model? Will it scale? --tony . Received: by umcc.ais.org via send-mail with stdio id for us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:11:35 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.93 1997-Apr-12 #3 built 1997-Apr-19) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:11:35 -0400 (EDT) From: jrh@umcc.ais.org (Jay Hauben) To: us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov Subject: Re: Automated .US Registration Site Cc: postmaster@top.votiv.com When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no more ads for web sites or anything else. .. Thanks > We have an automated registration site for the .US domains. Its a free > service for anyone to use. .... h . Received: from [208.226.58.30] by exchange.netmagic.com (NTMail 3.03.0018/1.acsd) with ESMTP id pa013899 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:28:19 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.54.19990527152306.00aad970@mail.netmagic.com> X-Sender: amr@mail.netmagic.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.54 (Beta) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:28:16 -0400 To: jrh@umcc.ais.org (Jay Hauben),us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov From: "A.M. Rutkowski" Subject: Re: Automated .US Registration Site Cc: postmaster@top.votiv.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_162076824==_.ALT" --=====================_162076824==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote: >When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was >looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be >regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no >more ads for web sites or anything else. Jay, These kinds of implementations are indeed highly relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based front ends, as well as small businesses, around facilitating end users making use of the existing domain space. Two key related questions concern the business model of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively with a large number of users. Bring on more business examples!! --tony --=====================_162076824==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote:
When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was
looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be
regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no
more ads for web sites or anything else.

Jay,

These kinds of implementations are indeed highly
relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates
how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based
front ends, as well as small businesses, around
facilitating end users making use of the existing
domain space.

Two key related questions concern the business model
of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively
with a large number of users.

Bring on more business examples!!




--tony --=====================_162076824==_.ALT-- . Received: from blizzard.odi.com (blizzard [198.3.23.25]) by mineshaft.odi.com (8.8.8/EX3.5) with ESMTP id PAA21138; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odi.com (sphere [198.3.17.196]) by blizzard.odi.com (8.8.8/IN3.4) with ESMTP id PAA06307; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374D9F21.98FDDFA3@odi.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:38:09 -0400 From: Jim Williams Organization: Object Design, 25 Mall Rd, Burlington, MA 01803 - 617-674-5355 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "A.M. Rutkowski" CC: Jay Hauben , us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov, postmaster@top.votiv.com Subject: Re: Automated .US Registration Site References: <4.2.0.54.19990527152306.00aad970@mail.netmagic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In that case, let's discuss how this particular example was in poor taste. It's built around a hidden cost. It gives no information on what use the provided data might be put to. And it was sent to a discussion list. I think this particular example of marketing is an unfortunately good example of why there is a need to regulate commercial speech on the Internet. Jim Williams. A.M. Rutkowski wrote: > > At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote: > > > When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web sites. I was > > looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space should be > > regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise , please no > > more ads for web sites or anything else. > > Jay, > > These kinds of implementations are indeed highly > relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates > how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based > front ends, as well as small businesses, around > facilitating end users making use of the existing > domain space. > > Two key related questions concern the business model > of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively > with a large number of users. > > Bring on more business examples!! > > --tony . Received: from blizzard.odi.com (blizzard [198.3.23.25]) by mineshaft.odi.com (8.8.8/EX3.5) with ESMTP id QAA23113 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odi.com (sphere [198.3.17.196]) by blizzard.odi.com (8.8.8/IN3.4) with ESMTP id QAA22846 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374DB1C5.10EEF73F@odi.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:57:41 -0400 From: Jim Williams Organization: Object Design, 25 Mall Rd, Burlington, MA 01803 - 617-674-5355 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov" Subject: [Fwd: Automated .US Registration Site] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FDB68520B194A6EF244E6C2F" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FDB68520B194A6EF244E6C2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------FDB68520B194A6EF244E6C2F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from mineshaft.odi.com (mineshaft [198.3.16.17]) by blizzard.odi.com (8.8.8/IN3.4) with ESMTP id QAA14339 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from top.votiv.com ([206.102.88.59]) by mineshaft.odi.com (8.8.8/EX3.5) with ESMTP id QAA22089 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from islander ([206.102.88.251]) by top.votiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04084 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:31:48 -0400 From: "Alan Sullivan - VoTiV Systems" To: "Jim Williams" Subject: RE: Automated .US Registration Site Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:07:48 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01bea87c$979ccf80$fb5866ce@islander.votiv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <374D9F21.98FDDFA3@odi.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Hi Jim, > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Williams [mailto:jlw@odi.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 3:38 PM > To: A.M. Rutkowski > Cc: Jay Hauben; us-list@ntiant1.ntia.doc.gov; postmaster@top.votiv.com > Subject: Re: Automated .US Registration Site > > > In that case, let's discuss how this particular > example was in poor taste. How is it in poor taste? It's built around a > hidden cost. What hidden cost? Any ISP or customer of an ISP can use this free. It gives no information on what > use the provided data might be put to. The information is put to no use at all. It is a pass through to isi.edu. And it > was sent to a discussion list. > Right... and no doubt it is starting one! > I think this particular example of marketing > is an unfortunately good example of why there > is a need to regulate commercial speech on > the Internet. > I couldn't disagree more. I believe all speech is protected in the US, no matter if you believe it smacks of commercialism. The fact is we sent it out for people to use for free. Actually we have been trying to give it to isi.edu for some time, but we can't even get them to update our whois... > Jim Williams. > > > A.M. Rutkowski wrote: > > > > At 03:11 PM 5/27/99 , Jay Hauben wrote: > > > > > When I came on this list I was not asking to see ads for web > sites. I was > > > looking for meaningful discussion of how the .us doamin space > should be > > > regulated, administered and developed. Am i wrong? Otherwise > , please no > > > more ads for web sites or anything else. > > > > Jay, > > > > These kinds of implementations are indeed highly > > relevant to this discussion list, as it demonstrates > > how innovate entrepreneurs are building web-based > > front ends, as well as small businesses, around > > facilitating end users making use of the existing > > domain space. > > > > Two key related questions concern the business model > > of such an enterprise, and whether it scales effectively > > with a large number of users. > > > > Bring on more business examples!! > > > > --tony > --------------FDB68520B194A6EF244E6C2F-- . Received: (cpmta 565 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:15:18 -0700 Received: from 209-0-226-55.chi0.flashcom.net (HELO jbr) (209.0.226.55) by smtp.flashcom.net with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:15:18 -0700 X-Sent: 27 May 1999 23:15:18 GMT From: "John B. Reynolds" To: Subject: RE: Automated .US Registration Site Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:12:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000401bea896$73571440$37e200d1@jbr.flashcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.54.19990527152306.00aad970@mail.netmagic.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 ISI has operated its own Web-based registration front end for at least a year. It's at http://www.isi.edu/cgi-bin/usdomreg/template.pl. .